The regularly scheduled meeting of the Bowling Green - Warren County Bicentennial Commission held in the offices of Planning & Zoning, 1141 State Street, Bowling Green, Warren County, Kentucky, on Thursday, August 29, 1986, at 4:00 p.m.

Commissioners Present:
Mike Reynolds, Co-chair, Laura Harper Lee, Co-chair, Don Stringer, Earlene Chelf, Herbert Oldham, Ray B. Buckberry, Jr.,,Charles Hardcastle, Dr. Jerry Martin, Eddie Barber, Judge-Executive Mike Buchanon

Also Present:
Lena Sweeten, Stan Reagan, Janet Johnston, James A. Dale, Jr., Scribe

MR. REYNOLDS: As to the minutes of August 22, do we have any comments or additions or deletions?

DR. MARTIN: On page six it says that I indicated Charlie Henry agreed to participate. It should be Riley Handy. George Seitz is S-E-I-T-Z, I believe.

ACTION: Motion for approval as amended by Mr. Oldham, second by Ms. Chelf and unanimously approved.

MR. REYNOLDS: I will give the treasurer's report. Tommy has gotten his ID number and he's made a requisition from Jerry Pearson at the county for his money and says that he'll have the county's money in the account by next Tuesday or Wednesday at the latest. He's not made his requisition yet from the city, but he's going to after the first of the week. If those two come through we'll have 10,000 to start what we've approved be requisitioned last week.

MS. HARPER LEE: Committee reports. Dr. Martin.

DR. MARTIN: Well, I contacted a few others to try to get them involved, and I've received a reply from the real estate people. I tried to get Jean Thomason who I understand is interested in history but haven't been able to reach her.

There have been some others that I haven't been able to reach that have indicated that they're interested; like Slick Hatcher has indicated he wants to be involved.

There's others that I've contacted or made an attempt to contact but have not reached. There's quite a few things pending. But we're getting along pretty well, I think.

MS. HARPER LEE: I have a name for you, Betty Lyne, L-Y-N-E. She does a lot of genealogical research in the Kentucky Library. She knows a lot of local history, too. She's given some talks to some organizations that she's been in.

Okay. Charlie, Promotions & Publications.

MR. HARDCASTLE: We had another meeting yesterday. I'm a little concerned about our time; that these things need to be done now. But when you're dealing with all volunteers, it's very difficult for me to fire them. So I am very concerned about the time element involved in this. Time is getting right on us. We set a deadline we'll have the logo done Bicentennial October 1. That's probably the best we can do.

We need to get us a statement so that we can, I guess, in our committee try to inspire people to get our directions all going in the right direction so we're all pulling together instead of the other.

We're going to propose some type of pin with the logo image on it that we could promote or sell those to help finance some of the actual events that's going on.

TKR is going to have the C-SPAN school bus. It will be here November the 14th. And they're committed for four hours at Moss Middle School. So I've got somebody working on that to see if we can do something about the 200th year.

One thing that we wanted to know and the questions came up was what involvement the Chamber of Commerce is going to have in this celebration. If we're going to make this a community event we need to try to get as many people in the community involved as we can.

And one other thing that came up, who is going to be the spokesperson for the media for the Commission? Is it going to be you, you? So that when we put out something we want to approach you and make you say something nice.

MR. STRINGER: Just volunteering, I understand it should be the chairs.

MR. HARDCASTLE: What our publicity promotions will be changed, a little of your stuff and add a little to it, take away a little bit. We will try to work within whatever budget you provide us. I'm rather close with the money. We're not going to waste any.

But we would like to propose that somebody, even a part-timer from one of the governmental offices; that one of them provide us with a certain amount of, if necessary, paid support that we can go to get things done.

I asked Stan if he wanted to do it. "Oh, I've got too much other work to do," unless the judge or whoever it is assigns you to this committee to do that.

MS. CHELF: Many of the committees have that same problem. The one failing in this whole project is the absence of an executive director to have been hired back many months ago to get this thing moving. That may be the one thing that is sort of the stumbling block for everybody.

Could I back up just a bit say something else that might be of help on us? I have in the last few days been given an opportunity to review some materials that were developed by Cincinnati when they did theirs way back in the '80's.

It is published documents, four volumes. This is the "How To". I think a set of those documents would be really beneficial for this group to have. It costs $300. But to me I think it would be worth the investment if we could take money from that budget and get a set of those, have them overnight them or Federal Express them so we can have them early next week.

But it talks about how to set out your budget, how to enlist community support, how to write a mission statement, how to devise your objectives. It's a dynamite piece of information. But I think that information would be really beneficial.

I think right now we're all sort of flying by the seat of our pants. We lack focus. We don't know exactly what we need to do next. And those documents set it down. It is probably, I think, the best available. The person who passed that on to me owns those and cannot make them available to us.

But he said when he was looking for that kind of information several places around the country recommended them as being the best. Cincinnati was so smart. They started five years in front of their Bicentennial. They have all of these lasting monuments.

What kinds of lasting memorials do you want to have? It has to be a legacy that means something to the people. It leaves your community better than it was before. It has to be something that the whole community can buy into.

I think we're limping along doing pretty well based on the time and effort that we can give to this. I don't see this broad participation from the community yet either.

I know numbers of people who have indicated an interest in working on committees. I don't know if they're even involved in committees or whatever. I think we need some focus.

Do you think it would be possible to get a set of those documents? They come in separate volumes. There is one that the Finance Committee could have. It helps them talk about budgeting. There's one for Publicity & Promotion. What kinds of things do you look at to promote and have represent your Bicentennial? So I really strongly urge us to get a copy of those and use them. I think it would immediately bring direction to what we're doing.

There is a list of things that you look for in logo development. If you ask people to submit logos, you ask them to bring you a T-shirt that has it on, paper that it's on. It's really very specific. I think it's the kind of guidance we need.

MS. HARPER LEE: I think we need some guidance. I'm doing the best I can. I've never done this before. I don't mind giving as much time as I can. But, you know, I can't devote all of my time to this.

MS. CHELF: What we're doing is sort of reinventing the wheel. The wheel has already been invented. It's on paper. It's available. Maybe that sounds like a lot of money to spend, but I think it's going to save us money in the long run.

MR. STRINGER: I agree.

MR. REYNOLDS: I would say if you think they did it right and it's a great guide, we probably ought to do it. I know the only comment that has been made in that general area that I recall hearing in the last four or five weeks is Ray Buckberry mentioned that he was cruising the Internet and had gotten information from various cities. He made that comment last week. They primarily were in the northeast and in Canada and was going to bring that material to us.

MS. HARPER LEE: We need an organized focus.

MS. CHELF: I think it would be worth the investment. It would be there for future use. You could pass them on to Glasgow or somebody when they do their Bicentennial or help them. I think we need focus. I think we need some help. We all have sort of a perception in our own mind what we think might happen. And I think this one has been done. It worked. You take what they have done and adapt it to our use here and to what we perceive as being our Bicentennial. It would be really helpful.

MR. REYNOLDS: Anybody opposed? Anybody want to make a motion?

MR. STRINGER: I'll so move to spend the money.

MS. CHELF: I will check with Ray and see what he has and then proceed. What I might do is just telephone these people and say, "Would you send it to us?" However they will do it in the most expedient way.

ACTION: Motion by Mr. Stringer, second by Ms. Chelf and unanimously approved.

MS. CHELF: Thank you. I'll proceed.

MR. HARDCASTLE: The presidents of the major corporations in Cincinnati were on the Fund Raising Committee.

MS. CHELF: Fund raising entailed, something like a thousand different businesses contributed money. That is a big, big scale. We can take that and adopt Bowling Green Warren County. That model will serve us really well and keep us out of some trouble.

MR. HARDCASTLE: They said that the staffing of their Bicentennial, that and Cleveland, too, the Bicentennial staffing was paid by the governmental bodies. Then all the other things were funded by things like the pins and the things of that sort, souvenir type things.

MR. STRINGER: I think we're getting wonderful help from these staff people. But they have their own jobs. That's a critical problem.

MS. HARPER LEE: We need some cohesive administration is what we need.

MR. HARDCASTLE: We need somebody to run some of our meetings, even if we have a staff person, either out of a governmental office or the commission office, Chamber of Commerce office so that you know that there's always somebody there.

MR. REYNOLDS: The Planning Commission has volunteered this room to us and there's a typed sign on the door that says Bicentennial Commission. Whether we want to put a staffer up here and a phone up here, whatever, I don't know. That remains to be seen. This may not the best place. It may be at one of the city or county offices.

MS. HARPER LEE: You have a really good point, Charlie. We all feel like we're floundering a little bit.

DR. MARTIN: Most industries and hospitals and some businesses and clubs and others have regular mailings. We could ask them to be sure and announce, give us a little bit of notoriety in their mailings. I'm sure it would be willing to be free. I know the Chamber would.

Every civic club, the president should be notified and ask them to announce it at every meeting or some appropriate way. The word will get out free. We don't have to buy space to advertise. We'll just use it properly.

MS. CHELF: This document also recommends a speakers bureau. That would be people on all of these committees going out, just talking to civic groups about the Bicentennial. Maybe they don't understand how they can participate.

What can they do? What kind of events and activities would tie in? That document also talks about how you consider what is submitted to, say, the Program Committee to determine if it is a viable Bicentennial activity.

Should it carry your logo? It's just a very helpful set of notebooks. It would be very good. It would be beneficial to have.

MS. HARPER LEE: Let's start with that. You make that contact and let's see what that says.

MS. HARPER LEE: Do you happen to have a funding report?

MR. BUCKBERRY: Yes. I'd like to announce the chairman of Funding & Finance Committee and new Commission member with your consent, Mr. Eddie Barber.

MR. BARBER: Ray Buckberry has offered the position, and I'm thrilled to death to be here. He sent me some information. I have read it. I think I understand a little bit of my position. I know the treasurer is also a part of the committee that I'm on.

MR. REYNOLDS: Eddie, we set a list of what we thought the duties of the Funding & Finance Committee would be, and this is an outline for you.

MR. HARDCASTLE: You've seen the minutes of our last meeting. If you'll look at what we are proposing that our committee would be responsible for, if you would look at that and tell us what you want changed or not changed, we'll try and live within that.

MR. BUCKBERRY: Working within its budget is unrealistic.

MR. HARDCASTLE: The people at Allied Sporting Goods are doing some kind of charity event, and they're going to raise some money, a thousand dollars or so. That's gone to Louisville for approval. I feel confident that will be done.

MS. HARPER LEE: Great idea. Thank you.

MR. HARDCASTLE: We need to be clear on what we want to accomplish and where we want to be a year or two from now. Just like Earlene said, have a lasting monument of some sort for the community. Those are things we need to have. We can't sell it unless we know what we're going to sell.

MR. BARBER: The thousand dollars that they raise, is it going to be donated to the Bowling Green Warren County Bicentennial Commission? Is that a 501-C?

MR. REYNOLDS: It's an agency of the city and county.

MR. BARBER: Therefore it is tax deductible.

MS. CHELF: How about establishing a mission goal? We want to have a celebration that recognizes the historical heritage of our county. Below that you have a list of objectives that you hope to achieve. I jotted some down. Building lasting improvements. Increase regional tourism and national media attention. Strengthen the business environment, enhance the community's heritage and future potential, involvement of all citizens of Bowling Green and Warren County.

Now these are some that you could use. They need to be more specifically. Look at what is unique to Bowling Green and Warren County and you play on that strength.

MR. HARDCASTLE: We don't care. We can sell anything. If you just have a list, we can sell it.

MS. CHELF: Maybe some objectives and then present them maybe at next Thursday's meeting to the rest of the Commission and see if those fly. They may have other ideas. But get a working group together maybe to start developing those.

MS. HARPER LEE: Why don't we have a working session where we draw some of those up. And have something that we can give you to give your committee. They can make alterations if they want to. Does that sound like a good plan, everybody? Is that workable?

MS. CHELF: We need that to get us started and focus. What do we hope to achieve with this whole thing? I need to get everybody's thinking on the same page here.

MS. HARPER LEE: The lasting legacy idea, I think the materials also include suggestions for lasting legacies. That's something I would be very interested in, too, some sort of booklet, some sort of compilation; what we've achieved, where we've been, what we would like to do. I think that would be a nice ending for the celebration. We will look for that, too, in these materials.

DR. MARTIN: We should end the celebration perhaps by unveiling a monument in Fountain Square with appropriate dates and times and something of that effect that will hopefully be there a hundred years or 200 years from now that people could go and see this is what happened 200 years ago.

MS. CHELF: Again if that's what the community wants. You need that broad participation to see if they view that as the lasting legacy. That's where you need many people contributing to that and having an opportunity to say what they think it ought to be.

MS. HARPER LEE: We need to mention a time capsule, too. That might be a nice idea.

MR. REAGAN: A lasting monument and a takeoff from Cleveland, too, is that they had their slogan of City of Bridges. We have three bridges within proximity of each other, one of which is already lighted. But their plan is to light all of their bridges in a certain area and build a riverfront development.

We have that available to us right there with those three bridges, the State Street bridge, College Street bridge and the U.S. 31-W bridge. A fourth one would be the CSX Railroad bridge.

MR. REYNOLDS: I was there that night in Cleveland when they flipped the lights on nine bridges. It was pretty spectacular. I think they had Bob Hope there, too.

MS. HARPER LEE: Committee activities are going to overlap. He need to expect that we'll probably have to just work that out.

What we're going to do is have the Executive Committee meet and look at some of these mission statements.

I like the bridge idea if we can carry it off. I think that's a nice thing. Again as Earlene says it needs to be something that the whole community can buy into and feel good about.

MS. CHELF: We need to establish a list of ideas and in some way let them vote or say, "This is what we think is best for our community, would have the most response to."

MR. BUCKBERRY: These various ideas that come floating up from time to time. "Let's light the bridges." What's going to happen to that? It looks to me like H.B. ought to have a master list and if there's nothing on there but the words "Light The Bridges," it ought to have a number, number six.

And it ought to have the committees that it's going to go through. Where is it? At the end there should be commission action. Approved Bicentennial event or disapproved, whatever it happens to be.

But at any time H.B. it looks to me like ought to be able to pick up things and say, "Well, we have 13 ideas. This is in Funding & Finance. Eddie is trying to find them some money. This one is coming all the way through and it's back to you all and the committee report is right there with it. So you want to do something on number four? Shall we go with it or not?"

MS. HARPER LEE: Developing a master list of broad based ideas, not real tightly focused ideas that some organization might want to carry out themselves but something that is broad based for the whole community like lighting the bridges.

MR. REYNOLDS: He brought three projects before us last week that were approved, the parade, the mock legislation on the 14th and the fund raiser in the middle of that week. They're approved and gone.

MR. BUCKBERRY: If I were a member of the community and I walked in and said, "What did you all do about that parade?"

"Well, it's been approved."

"Well, could I see the final action on that?"

"Oh, yeah. It's number 1, number 2, whatever."

"Can I look at it? Can I see a contact person? Here's who I contact. I want to do something on it."

Is that feasible?

MR. HARDCASTLE: You have to have somebody that's there every day that's consistent and that's knowledgeable of that, a full-time or halftime coordinator.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: Obviously Stan and Julie have been working and continue to work on this. As far as supplying a full-time person, I don't know that we have a full-time person to dedicate to it.

If that little bit of seed money is proved to be insufficient for what we have to do, I think we can go back to the well. What you're saying is you think that the county should hire an additional person.

MS. HARPER LEE: We need somebody's time to coordinate everything. We need an executive director. We talked about this.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: We looked at two different groups -- well, one group and an individual a year and a half ago, two years ago maybe. And the dollars that they were asking for far exceeded what we thought that we could justify with tax dollars.

I think the city and the county are willing to look at someone. Do you have someone in mind or a dollar figure in mind?

MS. HARPER LEE: I think the answer to all of that is no. We all agree that we need some coordination. It's crucial.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: One of the people that we talked with, I'm sure he could have done the job.

MR. HARDCASTLE: Let me let throw out the idea of people that are now working for the city or the county; that they could make that their first priority and then they have somebody -- if you had to get a temp or part-timer to do the routine work that they're doing now.

Say you've got a grant writer, haven't you? Okay. Brenda Hale. Is that a full-time position? Could she devote time and you could get a temp to do the routine work that she's doing now?

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: Stan and Julie have been giving quite a bit of time to it.

MR. HARDCASTLE: Just to have this as their first priority.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: We can't really give them to you in a priority situation. We could do, though, if the mayor and City Commission agreed, is, we could establish a salaried figure and add a person. You've got to find the right person. You can't just pick Charlie Hardcastle here and given him X amount of dollars a year and say he's the guy to do it. And it may be easier, smarter to go with someone that does this for a living.

MS. HARPER LEE: My personal feeling about this is that we would come off much better as a Commission and a community if we had that kind of professional assistance, someone who is trained to do things like this. I don't have a broad picture of what everybody is supposed to come together and do. I know basically how they're supposed to function.

MS. CHELF: We need to have somebody who can give more undivided attention to seeing that things happen, that information is funneled to people, a professional staffer that's enthusiastic about it.

MR. HARDCASTLE: If we can find somebody that already works for us in some capacity someplace, whether it's the city, the county, the tourist Commission the Chamber of Commerce or somebody that said, "Hey, here is the person that we already know does a good job."

If I didn't have to make a living -- I've got people that work for me that could do that. But I've got to make a living. They have to work so I can come down here.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: We don't have a whole lot of fluff in our staff.

MS. SWEETEN: He could recommend a person who probably wouldn't be asking for as much but would have the experience. They would certainly have the academic training that they need, with a masters degree without the professional staff. You could get that. They may not have 20 years of experience.

MR. STRINGER: Could Western?

MS. HARPER LEE: I had thought of that when Lena said that. I feel like we need someone who knows the community.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: There are two people that I have in mind. I hesitate to bring their names to you without talking to them. But one is Richard Sowers. The other one is Dorian Walker. I think they both have the planning skills, the experience and the direction.

What we are talking about here, we need to make sure the entire community wants this. And I know that's good because that's what I do every day in my job; try to make sure that everybody wants it.

The most certain way to ensure failure is to try to please everybody. What this Commission is suppose to do is be representative of thoughts of everyone and make a decision possible with the help of someone, whether it's on a consulting basis or an executive director basis on a full-time situation.

It's possible we can get by with a consultant to give you that level of certainty that you're going in the right direction maybe, guidance, cohesiveness. And then the clerical help that you need, we can provide that on more of a part-time, fill-in basis with the direction and guidance of that one expert for lack of a better word.

But the thing is we've got to make the decisions and feel strongly enough about it. And I say we. I mean you all and then to sell it. You know, make sure that you feel strongly about it. It will probably make it easier for you to feel strongly about it if someone that you looked at as an expert said, "That's a great idea. I can make that work."

But what we have to do as a committee, as a group, is make those tough decisions, sell them first to ourselves. That's the right thing to do and sell it to the community. Most of the community doesn't want -- you'll never get a consensus.

MS. CHELF: I don't feel like the community has had that opportunity yet to get involved. We haven't had that one big meeting where we say, "Anybody who wants to come and be involved on a committee." They could come together and hear what's going on and have that opportunity. It isn't anyone's fault. It's just that it hasn't evolved in that way, and I think we all feel this real under-the-gun pressure to get things really going and on the move.

I don't think the public at large has had that opportunity, even know that they can be involved or that they could be a part of deciding what the lasting legacy would be.

I just think it has to be something that the majority of the people think is the thing that we ought to do. And I know that you can't please everybody. But I think we need to listen to lots of segments, get ideas, and then you go with the best decision you can.

But I don't think the people out there have had that opportunity yet. I think I feel some concern about that.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: Do you think it would be beneficial to have an advertised public hearing? Maybe not in the legal sense of the word but just to advertise and say, "Everybody come to the courthouse, circuit courtroom on next Thursday night."

MR. HARDCASTLE: That's wonderful but to have one time like that; until we get our act together and say they have directions from that, lead them. You can have best product in the world, unless you sell it, people won't beat a path to your door.

MS. HARPER LEE: The information on the access channel is good. I saw it last night. Maybe we need to continue with that for a while and then have a public meeting. I think a public meeting is a good idea.

DR. MARTIN: We need to get TV to put something on the screen with our logo and Bicentennial so that everybody knows it and they don't have to say a word, just as a background behind the news broadcasters.

MR. HARDCASTLE: Clyde Payne is going to run this stuff. I've already talked to them.

DR. MARTIN: We have to be careful about an executive director. We need one. But if you're not careful an executive director who is forceful and very successful, pretty soon they think they own everything and run everything and don't want anybody to tell them what to do.

We have to let them know very clearly who they work for and keep a bridle on them. Let them on loose reins. I've seen that happen too many times where you turn an executive director loose and pretty soon it's out of control.

MR. REAGAN: One thing that we're talking about here is a buildup basically. What we probably need to do is have some advanced publicity on a meeting such as this, like Dr. Martin mentioned, the television, the newspaper and some other special media. Then we'll get their appetite whetted on the idea of having a paid staff person. Right now there is a search going on for community development director for the Chamber of Commerce. Perhaps we could dovetail with their search efforts for someone through that process that they want to refer to us.

MR. BUCKBERRY: Possibility for somebody probably long time, long term. We'll be talking to somebody. "Would you like the job for 12, 18 months?" So we may not be able to get the same kind of candidates. All right. Let's get something on the table.

I move that Charlie Hardcastle develop a public announcement that we want to know what you would like and what you think and that we schedule some public forums to get the information from the public and we do it on the same basis that the Planning Commission did the input for the Comprehensive Plan utilizing volunteer fire stations and other places; and then we have staff members, Commission members volunteer to cover those nights.

And get to Alvaton and there's two people. That's fine. Talk to them. Tell them where we are. Ask them what they would like to see. Fill out a form for any event and bring them back, turn it in.

When we did that with the Comprehensive Plan one person would go. And they would make the presentation, general in effect, and then solicit the information from people.

"Oh, I was at one of these in Poughkeepsie. Here's some things," whatever. And bring it back.

One man. "Who's got the key to the volunteer fire station? I'll be there Thursday night at six o'clock. And we'll be there for an hour and as long as anybody else wants to tell us something."

I'll take a night and some of us can take a night and come back and say, "What did they all have to say?" Turn it in to whichever committee. That's the suggestion I'll make.

MS. HARPER LEE: For these kinds of meetings it should be representatives from the Commission.

MR. BUCKBERRY: Danny Whittle will do that. If he doesn't I'll do what he needs help on.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: There are nine volunteer fire departments and there probably ought to be at least a couple in the city.

ACTION: Motion by Mr. Buckberry and moved by consensus for Charlie Hardcastle to develop a public announcement to the public concerning public forums for input to the Bicentennial; and, secondly, to conduct public forums at different locations throughout the county.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: When I hired consultants before for different things what I really want someone to tell me is a way that they have done something before that worked real well. Sometimes I just want somebody to tell me what I've already planned is a workable deal or if they have better suggestions.

We do need someone that when we make a decision here on whatever program, that we're going to run with the ball. "Here's the deal we're doing to do. You're in charge of making this happen working through these committees."

MS. HARPER LEE: Let's think about what we want, the process we want and talk about this next week and make this as one of our major objectives. Is that okay?

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: Now as I understand it we have a form to fill out and that form goes to H.B. first before it comes to this committee for a program.

MR. REYNOLDS: That's right. Or an event.

MS. HARPER LEE: If someone wants funding this form goes to Eddie.

JUDGE-EXECUTIVE BUCHANON: It still has to be approved by H.B. before it goes to Eddie.

MR. BUCKBERRY: What we have is this two-step; describe the activity you propose. What location? What date or dates? Do you require any location skills or research for which arrangements haven't been made? This is the Research & Resource Committee. Financial assistance required. How much do you want? When do you need it? Manpower. Do you need any manpower? 50 volunteers at the corner of whatever and whatever. If you've already received commitments who are they? Do you have any suggested special promotional requirements? Which will go to Charlie's committee.

If we just get the first line and the name. Okay. That's a start. Then the follow-up is what the committees had to say. Program Committee, recommendation and comments, so forth. Funding, "We don't have that much money," whatever it is.

Then it comes back. We intend it to come back to the Commission in the form of a motion and vote that says, "Let's do it," or, "Let's don't do it."

MR. REYNOLDS: We have two sets of mission statements floating around the table that a few of our members have developed and written up since last week. That's one thing we asked everybody to do last week.

MS. HARPER LEE: We have three mission statements that we're going to look at. Would it be agreeable while the Executive Committee is looking at some of that material to also look at the mission statements and try to come up with a statement from all of that input? Would that be agreeable to everybody?

Okay. If there's no other business, next week at the same time. Is that okay? Same time, same place?